Have you heard about grass fed beef? There’s an image of the idyllic cows roaming green grasses that comes to mind and the messaging behind grass fed meat is one of environmental positivity, but is it true? Today environmental scientist and Harvard Farmed Animal Law & Policy Fellow, Matthew Hayek is on to talk about his new research into the sustainability of grass fed beef. We also touch on the terms sustainable, ethical, and humane- are they marketing or reality? Is lab grown meat sustainable? The big ‘p’ word, protein, even comes up in today’s pod.
PS. We didn’t touch on the cruelty that takes place inside the factory farms, grass fed farms, and any animal raising facility in today’s episode. This episode was purely focused on the environmental aspect, more to come about the cruelty aspect in the future.

Check out Matthew’s new research in full and a great write up about it over on Live Kindly. You can find out more about Matthew’s day-to-day over on Instagram.


Today I mentioned the new virtual support group for new & transitioning vegans that former guest and licensed mental health therapist Casey Hill started. Growing Vegan will be held virtually Wednesday evenings for 8 weeks starting mid-October.

If you or someone you know is interested in more information including fees, dates, and topics please reach out here or email Casey Hill at caseyh@flourish-psychotherapy.com


Mentioned on the Show:

➜Casey Hill, mental health therapist, has been on the show twice before. Her past episodes about mental health, dealing with vegan sadness and fusteration have been some of the most popular and talked about episodes.


➜Matt’s PHD speech mentioned at the beginning of the pod.

Trader Joe’s sued for deceptive advertising on egg cartons. Trader Joe’s was sued for printing ‘cage free’ on their egg cartons when the birds were confined to crowded industrial barns without access to the outdoors. Check out the picture on the carton, crazy!

Avoiding meat and dairy is the ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth- The Guardian article Matt mentioned in the ep. A good read with solid scientific research.


Ps. Did you know you can listen in both iTunes & SoundCloud?

2 thoughts on “#125 Is Grass Fed Beef Sustainable w Matthew Hayek of Harvard Animal Law”

  1. Alyssa,
    Loved this episode! I’m a pediatric nephrologist (I take care of children with kidney disease) and completely agree with the comment about Americans over-consuming protein. I do a lot of dietary counseling and this is one of the most common myths that I have to address. A lot of that extra protein has to be processed by our kidneys and also increases the risk for kidney stones. It’s simply not necessary! True protein deficiency is exceedingly rare in the developed world.

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